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Where do we go from here, oh Christian?

Up til about fifteen years ago I was in the institutional church, I have since taken it myself to drown myself into the living word of God.

I would only recommend this for only the highly ‘Hang on the word of God’ people because if you are one of these people that are only a sunday sound bit people to ‘live’ your life on, it won’t work. I’m sorry.

My revelation came years ago, when I really started to research particular subjects that were brought up in discussions with christian friends. I would first come home and start looking thru bible references, scriptures, commentaries, video’s, audio’s, YouTube subjects video, christian news, secular news, sermons-ones that I didn’t agree with and some that I did, and finally books, alot of books. As you can tell I am exhaustive in my research, now if this isn’t a sign of deep passion for truth and God, I don’t know what is. I am continuing this after 15 yrs + and still as hungry for the ‘WORD’ as ever. Oh Yeah, did I tell you that I am a PK, a Preachers Kid! This means that I have heard 18 yrs of 52 weeks of sermon a year for 18 yrs before I left for college. This is also not including the revivals, conventions, and all the extra special meetings we had for special events. I have heard alot of ‘Christianity’.

My result of all this had led me to a ‘New Picture’ of the Gospel and what it means to Christianity. Now, most of my friends are within the institutional church and are coming from their individualistic theology of the denomination.Although I do have some outside of the church confines as ‘the same’ beliefs’. I am not a pushy ‘evangelist'( I hate even using that word), but I do state my beliefs. As friends we talk about different themes and stories in the bible and there meanings, we will disagree, we will agree on things but we at least know of another view point that is ‘out there’ for us, if we want to, go and research even more about it. You see it is the hungry ones that will do that exact thing. As I have done, I go straight home and start research it in multiple chapters in the bible, books, video,audio and anything else I can get my hands on.

But where does that even get me, or anyone else by doing this? Just think of it this way, ‘at least your not a bump on a log’ for God. Your that frog that is always hopping for God, here, there, everywhere!! LOL

There has to be a conclusion of a ending to the storyline, someplace. And to what end? We are given a clue. Guess what! Guess where it is? Your right, at the end of the storyline, of and by the writer of the story!! God has all the answers, and has all the ways in which we are to do them.

God has (as does my blog title says the answer) the “ETERNAL PURPOSE. LIFE!!

Now if you were a new christian or even a doubter of God, I would always tell you to start at the beginning of God’s story. Genesis 1-2. Then Stop. Take a week or even a month and just think about these two chapters and listen to what it says. Then when you realize that it is God telling you, and all of mankind that God is wanting you to have “LIFE” and to have it abundantly in His Name. Then you can go on and go slowly into the story that prevails in a human controlled world and see what happens to it, all thru today’s headlines.

When you get to the end of the bible, you will come to the last two chapters of the story. It will tell you how God will and has put it back to rights(this is the phraseology that a author of mine puts it, I think it is the best way to explain it.

God tells us and shows us the final picture of his story and how it is going to be. God, His people, His Kingdom.

and this is where we will end up!

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Trying to get past the fluff

I want to start the John series in the next few days. I was sidetracked saturday with an long and intense chat on facebook with a few friends. It was a topic of one’s friends theology and the opposing view, mine. There were four guys discussing the subject thru out the day, 12 hours later we wrapped it up! We all brought up our thoughts and beliefs on the subject to sway our justification for our beliefs. It is this that I seek to gain the influence of other people to bring out people and their foundation of faith in God.

It was in this discussion that it came to me, that christianity has looked for salvation in the scriptures, mainly in the new testament and cherry picked verses to create a scenario for saving. It has been a concern for christians on the ‘How’ we may be reinstated to our original status. It is when we justify the varying verses to connect each other to make a plan of salvation. What we must realize that God has had the plan of working with his creation from the time of denial of God’s authority. The lack of starting with the whole storyline of this saving journey from the starting with an example of people such as the Jewish people of Canna. There is a lack of knowledge of the deeper themes, types, foreshadow, allegory, and most of all the eternal purpose of God.

There is not a ‘knowing’ of the whole storyline of God and His Eternal Purpose throughout the scriptures.

It is the fact that christianity has separated the story of Israel from itself, that has started the confusion of the storyline that God created. Another problem with this storyline is that Christianity has changed the story to be an individual story of salvation, rather than the ‘whole of Creation’ which God is telling us from day one from Genesis.

When we set ourselves ‘straight’, in our theology of God, we will not only be amazed but excited for the whole world. Let me just say this straight up and get it over with, Denominations have killed the Christian experience. Let me explain why.

Denominations were created by men who stood for a structure of beliefs in the aspects of an institution. It was designed for the foundation and the walls not to be penetrated by other beliefs or exploring of others. For whatever reason this is also a trap to keep people ‘in’ a vacuum of belief and not ‘let’ or trap the group into ‘not’ looking outside this realm.

This is the ‘issue’ that I was coming across with my discussions with some of the participants on the subject. There seems to be a lack of understanding of the bible and its meaning. Christians need to first ‘read’ the Bible, from front to back! Then next study the bible from front to back! Someone once asked me “How long should one read the bible and know it” my answer was the program preached on sunday to read it in a year, or two years. I told them the “I thought it should be around 50 yrs or so, if that.” Which took them back at my answer. I personally have been engaged in the study of the bible for around 20 years.

This is one of the reasons that I have pushed in the last 10 years to living and saying this that we need to separate ourselves from the model of institutions, to escape the confinement of said rules of salvation. Being a christian(believing in God) should drive us to search the word and to eat it’s words to actually ‘know’ God. This is our desire to be in him and Him in us.

Let us be able to take it upon ourselves that God wants us His People to ‘be’ with Him, eternally forever.

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Community?

What defines the word-‘community’?

It is used in so many ways that we have a distorted understanding of it. We also have a lot of questions about it too. Some people believe that it is your neighbor, neighbors, your little town, your big town, or maybe just who you associate with. It is also could be the community of your beliefs, community of your work, or the community of family.

Maybe, just maybe if we could just combine all these things that we believe is just the one that we see as a community as we are involved in. It is because ‘we’ need to see that our community is the entire creation that God has created.

Community is a unique way of distinguishing a people that are united in their nature in something that unites them all to one thing. That one thing is God, the creator. We are his creation, he is our creator.

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How did you learn?

Is it just assumed on how you came to knowing your theology of the bible? Have you ever had discussions in church or at home with friends on topics that may go against the beliefs of the denomination you attend? Does this change your overall belief in your theology? Have you ever had discussions with family members on different beliefs? Do you read,see,listen to other avenues of theology?

Have you ever church hopped? Going to different church’s away from your denomination? What was the experience? Was it the same, different, in what way? Why was it? It is a ‘church’. What did you need to see different in the church? People,Minister,Songs,Atmosphere, Routine, Programs, Why is this necessary,if all people in church are ‘God’s people’?

These are things that need to be asked and answered to see where we are at as God’s people. If all these things do not matter, it is what God’s design that does matter. This ‘paradigm’ of institutional people then is wrong! Our theology is wrong.Our beliefs are wrong. We are wrong.

Knowing history, knowing christian history is key to knowing how,why, when,where things changed to be ‘christianity’ as God ordained it to be. It is for us to study,read,absorb this knowledge of God’s work in previous generations before us. Taking things for granted is not wise for anything.

Until we read what was said as witnesses of the whole bible of God’s divine and eternal purpose for us and ‘SEE’ what it is, we should not ‘just’ go to a building and assume that we are doing the ‘right’ thing about being there!

I challenge you to re-read the scriptures from beginning to end, slowly soaking it in and knowing what it is really saying, not just the words or saying of the words but the forrest despite the tree in front of you. There is a storyline to the scriptures, This is what God had in mind all along, we just have to see it. Please don’t just pick one climactic moment to use and build thing around it, this is just wrong.(Alot of beliefs are built in christianity like this and it is not right) Everything is interlocking in God’s words to spell out a amazing story for us to know and believe.

The first step to this, is the hardest, you must be free from outside interference of what you have been accustomed too. Take six months to a year to start from scratch, and read the scriptures with out any preconceived notions from anything or anyone. But this might be hard in that you really have go to be focused in reading the word daily,weekly it is with this that you ‘will be’ in communion with the Lord in his ways.

This will give you will some amazing moments with God and looking at scriptures that will last forever in your journey with him. You will not regret it. Trust me, Trust God.

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Backstory!

Do you ever come across something in your bible study that goes against your belief that you have now?

This is happening to me in a lot of studying that I have been doing in the last seven years. I am not on purpose looking for things that are obviously different, but I am looking at the foundation of the christian faith and how it started. It is different from what we see now in our ‘christian’  life.

I know that statement comes out of left field, for some, but you must stop and think and relook at the scriptures, and also the back story of christianity, to get the actual meaning of the scriptures. Back story is very,very important, do not take it lightly, no matter what somebody tells you. You see, only now when someone tells you a story today, and they tell you about something happened to them and what it made them do,say, or react can you totally understand how they would tell the story, you know the background of it all.

But if I was to tell you, a story, from the early 1800’s, you would need to know some background of the story to fully understand on why,where,how, when,and what was going on in my story, or else you would come to some different perspective of the story than I  wanted you to get.  So it is with the same argument that we must use to understand the story of the scriptures. I believe this with all of my heart that this is why we have come with some different messages throughout our reading of the word.

Reading of a back story in a time period and of a society, does not infringe on anything of the bible’s authoritative premise, but it enhances the story to let us be fully aware of what was going on and why. “……and you were there!” is an appropriate phrase to use if we were to put ourselves in the ‘biblical narrative’  in real-time. It would just blow our socks off, if we were to be tele-ported into the scenes of biblical times. I am also convinced that we would come away from the biblical story with a lot of different belief’s and understandings.

It is sometimes frowned upon in some christian circles to not look at or use any ‘outside material’ to further ourselves in biblical knowledge. But what is not understood with biblical studies is that we have taken everything for face value, or the black and white of it. This will just not do!! We need to just go back 200 yrs to see that things changed on the way we perceived things and the reformation parted ways with Catholicism. It is with Martin Luther and John Calvin, that led the way with a different belief system in the scriptures.

This is even more reason to  further ‘your’ study, not anyone’s, or anyone’s group but your’s to make it concrete in your belief. This method of searching the scriptures about the people,land,leaders,societies,gods,kingdoms,kings,rulers, and beliefs will ultimately make God’s story come alive!!

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