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Standing Up, or not.

I believe in conversation, or maybe even a stronger word, discussion or even debate on christianity and all that it details it in our current moment. I love the descriptive words, the references, the interpretations of the said discussion. It widens the mind of anything that anyone talks about a particular subject. It challenges us to think outside ‘our’ box. I love reading comments on discussion blogs about something that I am interested in, the 60 degrees of answers that I read that tell me alot of things. One thing, that is obviously we are not yet in the state of ‘one mind’ as God wants us to be such as in Phil. 1.27Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one [fn]mind striving together for the faith of the gospel.

With this being said, I find things perplexing when I present things in blogs or discussions on topics of various things that I write or bring up in discussion, and I find no rebuttal of background of their beliefs or of their ‘proof’ of their belief. Now, I am not sure on how to take this ‘blankness’ of rebuttal’ on their face’s, but I have a few ideas as why.

There is one idea is that it is a heritage of belief that has dragged on for generation after generation of the same thoughts and understanding of God,faith, and the bible. It is one that is taking for granted that is one that is discerning because of our lack of knowing for ourselves as truth of God ,faith,and the bible is mute for us, we believe what our previous generation does. But it is also because our ‘beliefs’ are set that we are not being tested by ‘fact checked’ beliefs by not having a need to check the scriptures for ourselves.

Continuing on the last reason of the lack of bible scriptures being attested to the same beliefs, it is in the ‘church’ paradigm that it is prevalent in the structure of embodiment of the body of Christ. There seems to be a very low in our comprehension of the bible. Although there is a few standouts of theology minded people who are earnest in the bible studies and research and loving the word. There seems to be not all of the ‘body’ that is fitting into this ‘knowledge’ of the scriptures.

I am one of those very studious people that love to dig into various questions that have been presented to me and I will search and dig until I find the answer. My joy is staying in the realm of God and his ways to be in the mind of God, and Spirit of understanding. This should be the attitude of every christian who is follow God and his eternal purpose for his ‘image’.

We must push ourselves to be loved by God, and for us to Love Him even more to do everything that is ‘of’ Him. Including the reading and understanding the ultimate goal of God to have a ‘people,a world, and be their God’ for eternal eons.

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Identity?

When does something become something?

I was listening to a debate yesterday over a christian theology matter(subject is irrelevant for this topic),when I pondered the identity of when does something become something?( once we knew this we will be able to use this for everything, and I mean everything)

Does something become ‘real’ when I plan to make something in my head? Does it become real when I have started on the project in the early phases of building? What if I make it, then decide to make it differently? What if I just make it wrong that it isn’t what I wanted it to be? Do I have to wait til the project is done, and done right accordingly to me to be what I said it was going to be?

This is confusing! There seems to be more variables after the concept is conceived than just coming from the possibility of the said idea was formed! Do you know what I am saying?

Is it something just because of the possibility of becoming something?

Or is it a possibility just because I have the ability to make the said thing possible?

I have taken this road to weirdness, to come at something from a different angle!

The ‘Trinity’, Father,Son(Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. I believe in it.

I believe that the Trinity was,is,will be forever. period.

So by saying this, We can say that They ‘have been’ forever.

So by saying this, We can say that They ‘are’ now.

So by saying this, We can say that They ‘will be’ forever.

So they by ‘being’ at anytime, could and have been anything they desired.

They could be anything that was within themselves, just by the ‘thought’ of it, without acting on it.

or saying it!

God is unlimited in himself,God is everything in everything!

Jesus also is unlimited in himself, Jesus is everything in everything!

Holy Spirit is unlimited in himself, Holy Spirit is everything in everything!

This could be confusing, for the christian today, let alone for the average joe on the street to understand. But here me out.

God,Jesus,Holy Spirit are within themselves,(they are what they are) But they are also within the other’s identity.

They are three but one.

Now this all by it’s self could be a great study of the word. But it is not where I was laying the foundation.

It is the fact that ‘ALL’ things come from this ‘Paradigm’ of God. It is the reality that from these three identities of God that we have gotten alot of things. (We know this because we have seen history)

We have seen a Universe,planets, stars, earth,moons, man, animals, vegetation, women, son of man, ekklesia, Life,death,Love,suffering, healing, joy, hatred, Heaven, Kingdom of God, creations from God to us. (The list could go on for about a thousand years, so I will stop here)

The picture that I am trying to paint is the one that within God’s essence comes the first of everything, He is the Almighty. It is thru Him that comes everything.

So by this I will say that something becomes something just because God is God.

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