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What if Adam had…….

Nobody ever talks about the ‘what if’s’ of the bible.

I always seem to look at these to see if I can clarify a passage by looking at the opposite of something and see if it had gone the opposite way, what it would mean or represent from that perspective. I have one that is very fun and exciting to think about. Sometimes, thinking or learning this way can unexpectedly can help you with other texts down the road. This is such one.

What if……Adam and Eve had ate of the ‘Tree of Life’!

Wow, Would of never had thought of that!

This statement has a few facets to it, if we dig deep into it. Let’s start with the first one. Adam and Eve ‘ate’ the fruit of the tree. Now we perceive and have always look at this story as a fleshly act. We ‘bite’ into a peach and we chew it until we swallow the fruit to digest into ourselves, as to make it apart of us. This is a actually a ‘word picture’ of ‘eat’ for us to ‘see’ in a beautiful description of what God sole and only purpose for his creation to be.

I have been ‘preaching’ this scenario to people that I know, and to various other people, to let them start from scratch in their search for God. It is this. For a long time I looked at this scene and said “We were supposed to eat of the Tree of God(Life), although this is true, it’s gets better, It’s not the ‘tree’ that we are supposed to it!, it’s the fruit of the ‘Tree’, Which is ‘all’ of the distinctions of God or all the qualities of God. Which would mean that we would be ‘of’ Him in doing so. His ‘Fruit’ would be ‘Our’ fruit!!

Wow, Just WOW! If only we would of done it then!

Now let’s take this another step forward. Let’s go to the new testament in a passage that will infer this same thing of eating of the Tree of Life. Mark 14: 22 While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is My body.” This scenario of the Passover meal is the backdrop of this statement by Jesus. The Passover meal is a backdrop, it must be taken in thought to fully understand the statement by Jesus. The passover was the act of God to protect His people from death from the Egyptians curse of their land by God. The key point here is the saving of His people thru the blood of the lamb’s meal. It is then carried forward to the storyline now in mark as Jesus’s body as the ‘lamb’ to be pictured as ‘eating’ or being filled with His ‘fruits’ of His Life.

This reality of melding with Christ is the Holiness that what becomes us to be Holy in God’s eyes. It is what it is portraying in Genesis 2 as eating of the ‘Tree of Life’ would of been to them. This illustrates the Spiritual aspect of Christ as He was giving us to taste of Him. To become as one in Him. To be all in all.

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Then the eyes of both of them were opened…..

It all started here.

This was the beginning of the downfall of mankind.

We are going to take this scenario from the beginning of man’s time and see where it lead us, and what ramifications that it has on all of us.

We are going to start at verse 6 of Genesis 1, “When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. This is after the serpent had talked to her about what God had told them the do’s and don’t’s.

The serpent questioned eve about how truthful God was in telling them of the sincerness of God and his instructions.The first thing that the serpent questions eve about is the fact of dying if the fruit was touched or eaten. Now, this is where we must start in analyzing what is meant in the discussion of adam and eve’s beginnings.

From my perspective, I have always wondered if they even knew what ‘dying’ meant? After their ordeal of eating of the fruit, and God coming upon them in the garden, hiding in the bushes, what was God going to do to make them ‘die’? With God’s questioning them about what had just happened in the garden and the forbidden fruit being eaten, and the repercussions being giving out to adam and eve, what was the mind thinking?

(I am doing this on the ‘fly’ as I go in the ‘understanding of the text, so let’s work this out together) I may throw out various possibilities of answers or questions thru this discussion.

Something that maybe we need to input here that could alter our theology of things from here out in the understanding of the scriptures. And it is this : In What state was Adam and Eve in in the Garden of Eden? And by this I mean, Adam and Eve could not of been ‘in the flesh’ in the Garden of Eden. Why? Because no one being of the flesh will be in the Kingdom of God. So the question is, “What state were they in?” I myself am not sure. But our answer will effect our belief’s from here going foreword as you will see.

Let’s go over first the reaction from eve on ‘seeing’ the tree of ‘good and evil’. She said that it ‘was good for food, it looked ‘pretty’ and the tree was desirable to make ‘one’ wise. Now, on the first observance of the ‘fruit’, it was object of a first fruit of a ‘fruit’ tree, so it was for the eating for man. Should be good so far. The second thing was mentioned was that it looked ‘pretty’ to eat. Now, as we know from food from all across the world, that all food does not look pretty. So this is an iffy proposition for us in deciding that something is good for us just because it looks ‘pretty’. The third statement from eve is one that might be hard or need to go deep into what this really means but we will throw out some things for us to think about. Serpent’s proclamation is “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

This quote is in two parts, we will take them one at a time. The first one, I am particular interested in solving, it is revisited in alot of things in the bible, so if we solve the first one, we should be able to see our way thru with the rest of them.

‘Eat from it and your eyes will be opened’, sometimes when reading a verse or passage on something and it is referring it as being positive, I will also look at it from the opposite view, this passage is one of them. We then can say that Adam and Eve’s eyes were ‘closed’ (allegorically) in this instance. So, what does this mean? First, we can say that God did not want us to ‘know good and evil’. We could also say that only God was the author of ‘Good and Evil’, only God’s wisdom can say what is ‘good and evil’. We as His creation cannot! For He, and only He is the Creator! So is this the way that we were designed to be, as God’s creation? So, let us take this as a good thing or a God thing. (for now) Obstacles ahead!

So, by going by this, God’s desire is for his creation not to know ‘the knowledge of good and evil’. The added text from ‘the serpent’ of us having the knowledge of good and evil plus we would be ‘like God’ is not to be known by man, for man’s sake.

Let’s take this a little step further, Adam and Eve were given a choice in the garden, to obey or not to obey. This is also called a ‘Free will’ by some in the business. Some say this is not relevant in anything besides this passage. But we will see.

Now if you are new to the scriptures, you will not ‘know’ what is coming down the road for man to struggle with in his journey of continuing his ways, or if he wants to change his frutility in life. Those that have some knowledge of the whole bible, knows that there is going to be varying thought processes of who or what is going to be effected.

We will continue on with this another day, let me know what you think so far on your interpretation of this or just a comment.

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Observations

I am an observer. I have become over the years interested what people say and think, in whatever the circumstance I am in. I listen to people’s conversations on the street, in restaurants, in groups of friends, not just to hear them talk, but to listen to what they are ‘really’ are saying. I have veered off of my original school studies in college of Psychology, but more of a sociology angle of people. Although I was very interested in sociology in high school as well.

This leads me to my love of listening of a plethora of things and topics on Youtube. My playlist covers a gambit of topics that I have chosen to constantly be apprised on. I continually am researching and being aware of things that are currently being discussed, but also the history of things that are always being brought back up for discussion.

My most recent episode of youtube video was a production of someone that decided to venture out on a limb(which I applaud mightily) and ask three individuals of Israel and three individuals from palistine to talk in a setting to talk. The format of the discussion was set up by a host that would ask a question that they would agree or disagree on or just a question of inquiry of state of affairs between the two people. All six people would then walk over to a stool, three stools facing three other stools for a face to face discussion. They could chose to elaborate on their opinion on the question with a rebuttal coming from the other side of the discussion. It was a very civil discussion and very informative.

I have come away with two observations from this video, not about the subjects, but from a more humanity perspective. One, in the discussion after probably thru most of the discussion it came apparent from both sides that the problem of their issue, was that it was the governments on both sides were getting in the way of what the people wanted out of the whole issue. It was like if the people could talk to each other as a whole that they could come to a resolution in a matter of minutes. What was also apparent that these six people were from the opposite sides of conflict in their views, that they were not acting as an enemy after the talks, but were one on one talking with each other about various subjects that they had discussed earlier.

The second observation, was a brilliant move by the creators of this experiment( I again want to stand up and give them an ovation for what they did), their cementing of the end result of what the creators knew what would happen in their discussions of the actual participants of the parties involved, would not be going at their adversarial throats or even attacking each other in hatred. They knew the outcome!

After the questions had all been asked and discussed by all and the answers were satisfactory understood, there was a surprise to all six participants.

They were treated to a formal dinner brought in to them for them to sup together! All six of the individuals said they would enjoy the meal together! Is this just ridiculous? Two enemies sitting together and eating together as if nothing between them mattered! They were after all just eating a meal together! But what about the things that they were fighting about in the real world? They were enemies, fighting from afar and from side to side,they were standing up for their beliefs on the issues. How could this happen, people on the opposite sides, sitting down to eat together!

I want to expand on this last point with a couple of expansions of the point. One of the realities of the discussion is the intrusion of the government into the equation. It is the ulterior motives of the government that always gets in the way of things, but it is the people that are in the middle of things, that seem to not understand the fundamental needs of the people of just getting along with each other and just living their lives. For the people as a whole wish to live together in harmony.

The last point I wish to expound on is what happened at the end of the questions put on the six people of the video on youtube. The Meal.

I can’t enough say that this event is and was a powerful statement to mankind, but even more to the audience of christianity. I will now tell you that we have to go back to the New Testament and the story of Paul and Peter in Antioch of the actual historical confrontation but also the allegoric meaning of this story.

The story of Paul and his mission to the people of Antioch was the harmony of the message was the same within the gospel being taught. A key element was the justification of who was apart of the gospel? The answer was everyone. Jew and Gentile(anyone not Jewish), The chosen people were now not just for the people of Israel but of the whole world. This picture was realized in the actual sitting down with everyone involved in the gospel and eating with them. It was a cementing statement in a picture of sorts.

It is when Peter and Paul both understood this element of the gospel, and their evangelizing to all that were concerned to know the gospel. To really understand this soon to be confrontation in context we have to understand that it was Peter that was considered to be the leader of the assembly in Jerusalem, along with James.

But it is when James and a party of his men come to antioch to check on the people of antioch for themselves and see that Peter quickly arise from the table of the gentiles to sit with the jews to eat his meal that causes a scene. Paul, having seen what had happened, chastises Peter for not staying with the gentiles to eat and escaping to sit with his fellow jews. This was not the gospel! and Paul told him so.

It was almost a story within a story to this altercation. Why did Peter do what he did? Was he only standing for his convictions when he was with Paul, or did he not really believe that the gospel was just for the Jews? It was James and his party that were being put on trial in sorts because is this the way that the assembly in Jerusalem believed. This last part will have to be for a later time to delve into for a separate blog.

It is my opinion in this matter that this was a sign of Paul and Peter going their separate ways of understanding of the gospel. This matter in this story is not often really dug into for the real issues driving the story along. I honestly believe that Paul and Peter were not on the same page of the gospel. There was a divide of the gospel stemming from the ‘church’ in Jerusalem and all the other church’s, especially the ones started with Paul.

We will further talk about this story in coming blogs to maybe clear up some things between Paul and Peter.

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Are you hungry?

This question, if asked around my house would be a resounding “Yes” all day long! 

It seems that our bodies  are actually craving some kind of food all day long and sometimes at nite too. It is ironic that our bodies have our attention in this way, we have to feed it three or more times in a day to keep it happy and not growling at us for something new to come into our stomachs. It is only a daily thing.

We could almost say that food is in control of us. We are subconsciously being controlled by food. Without even thinking about it we have to have it, whether it be good food or bad food, now that is another topic all together. But the idea of food controlling our lives is there.

To a basic poor person compared to the average person living his or her normal life, we think about this food thing very rarely in that it is our lifeblood to life. We just go to the refrigerator and pull something out to eat, anytime of the day or nite. But to that poor person it is a matter of life and death. It is that simple.

And in a spiritual way it is.

God’s suttleness  is so amazing to me in knowing Him. He talks to us in such ways that we have to look into His face and to listen to what his every word is that we would be spellbound by his wisdom in Himself.

I have found such aweness of God that I find myself wanting to eat and drink of Him all day long. His words coming from the written word and from Him have made me want to snack on him besides to have those three Big meals in the day.

This leads  me to to the revelation that we must go away from this idea of one time a week to be lead by God to fill us for the whole week!  No one in their right mind would try a eating routine like this and live! Why should we  think that this would work in our life with God?

Let me tell you a great diet that really works.Every day that you wake up, eat a meal in the morning,afternoon, and evening to sustain you thru the day, and if you are really hungry try some snacks in between these meals. It will  quench your thirst and hunger!

Now, if we apply this thought to our spiritual life, we will have recipe for a spiritual life with God that we shall not ever hungry or thirst no more!? Now, where have we heard this before? Oh,yeah. It is in the bible when Jesus with the woman at the well.Jesus answered the woman’s question of how He could get some water if He did not have something to draw it from. But Jesus said to her ” Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again,but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

This “water” is a reference not to a physical water but a life of Him, which is what water brings to us in its physical sense. I am so in awe of the subtlety of God, it just make me sit there and Go “WoW, God you are amazing!

Our reality it seems is that we are like this samaritan woman in that she(the world) is still relying on the physical aspect of water to sustain us instead of God.

We have also realize that this is a daily occurrence of our being to walk with God. Our belief that our going for food on a certain day will not cut it any more. We have to come to God, who is at the Head of the Table, who is the food of Life for Us.

So, Come to the feast, every second,every minute, every hour,every day for the rest our lives to dine of God and with God. and they all said, “Amen, and Hallelujah”

P.S. as a testimony to this eating of God, I am eating more and more of him every day, I sense that I will not be quenched until I have looked into His eyes and know who He is. God is leading me on a daily basis to eat of Him, and I am now beginning to metabolize in a different way than I used to. I can now truly say “God is my Life”.

After all, “you are what you eat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

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