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Grass roots

I am going to come at this from a different angle.

What ‘we’ created in the garden of eden was, in reality another world, a world made by us, according to us, and for us. It’s that simple. Our way was going to be best. Designed for us and lived by us.

No matter the cost.

You see this is the world that God-less people have created. It has created some good things that we see as good.(notice that this is exactly what happens when you eat from the “knowledge of good and evil”) And as you look outside your window, you can see all the bad we have created over the last 8,000 yrs(depending your view of earth). This all was our choice back then and even today, we still feel the freedom to make our own laws for ourselves and for others, or for entire countries. We are Free!

This is the world in which we are fighting as christians to change back to God’s ‘Heaven’ structure.

But how is this going to be done. What we learn from Jesus in the New Covenant(I prefer this, over testament) is that change to the New covenant and to the New Kingdom will be created not by the way of the world’s view of getting your way of things either by war,strong arming,or laws but of just the opposite of ways. Using the paradigm, it will be the opposite of everything that you as a person of flesh will think, it will now be thought of as spirit of knowledge and wisdom of God that leads us. Christ is now, He is now in our spirit leading our worship and desires for his kingdom. It is Us and Him, together changing back the realm of His world to the way it was as in the Garden of Eden.

This picture that we are to create in the world in our own little community is the same one that Mary encountered when she was checked on the open tomb of Jesus, and saw no one in there. It was when she turned around to tell someone about his disappearance, thought she was talking to the ‘gardner’ not Jesus. John 20.14-15. This picture is not often seen thru the average christian see’s this as the beginning of a ‘New Kingdom’, Jesus back in the garden, gardening as if He had never left.

God’s desire is to get back to this scenario, it is His creation to ‘see’ this as the finality of the Eternal Purpose. Just as Jesus was gardening as the New Creation had just developed, we too should be gardening in our ‘New Creation’ doing our Vocation as God gave us to do in the first instructions for us in the realm of the garden.

Let us take our vocation as our life long duty to live up to God’s desire. Be His creation. Live for Him,Worship Him as our author and designer. Do not hide in the walls of a building, but be in the fields, streets, neighborhoods, let your ‘light’ shine to the world, your community, to start that little pocket of the world, for all to see, and to expand as others start their own little pockets of this New Kingdom, in which it will someday be all united as one, One New Kingdom, Of God our Savior!!

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Walking, Talking Christ

Life is hard.

It is hard fighting it.

We seem to be fighting life from the negative side or from the bad side of the equation. We believe that if we fight for a bad cause to make it better, life will get better. But fighting from this angle it can wear us down after time. In fact, our crusade could take us our whole life to conquer it. If even then it would be conquered then. This is just coming from a personal conviction, what about everyone else?

This way of fighting the negative could be considered a social fight to rid the world of the all the ‘so-called’ evil in the world. The effort that ‘our’ mission seems to be to rid the ‘evil’ is misguided in that God has vowed that this is ‘His’ job to fill. Man’s ability to make the ‘social ills’ of society, could be a disaster to all involved by the turmoil of what someone deems to be ‘evil’. We may be seeing this now in our world now.

But more importantly, who is to say ‘What is Evil or bad in one’s society’?

The other side of the coin, could be, no, It ‘is’ the way to attack the world. It is the standing up as a follower of Christ and the ‘identity’ that it upholds as the body of Christ. As was in the old testament the identity of God’s people was their identity of their law, and their own God. God’s change to the new covenant was to write the ‘law’ on the hearts of his people.

Our concept of what our ‘identity’ as a Christ follower has got to coincide with what the foreshadow of the old covenant. We must stand as representative of Christ in our world, such as a High Priest would do in Israel.

I saw an illustration of a small group of people singing carols in a circle, holding candle’s, with one being lit. The key to this illustration is the way that it is the right way to do it. You see, When one has the lit candle in a crowd, showing light in a dark place, all others are wanting to be ‘in’ the light. So there instinct is to ‘go’ to the one that has the light and be ‘like’ or just ‘be’ light.

You started with one candle lit(Christ’s light), with darkness all around him. You then are approached by someone from the darkness asking for to be in the ‘light’ with the touching of candles, to produce a brighter light. Those two lights are approached with another candle wanting to be lit as a light for himself, and for others. It is then seen by someone farther away in the darkness, that sees a light for direction, and goes there to have their candle(life) represented as a light in the world.

It is this model of God’s people coming together as one that will become God’s Kingdom.

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Is it just me, or…..

I’m a reader,I study, I research, I explore possibilities, I never leave a stone untouched.

I ask questions, I always ask “Why”, I will look at your side, I will look at mine too.

But I never quit for the knowledge of God.

This will be a rambling of things that have gone on in the world of Christianity and it’s process that is led us to today.

Let’s start with, way back in the olden’ days, I mean When it was Just God,Son, and the Holy Spirit. Now this ring of three circle we cannot enter into, for a variety of reasons, but we can just guess. Just by the outcome of their decisions. God,Jesus, Holy Spirit were a very tight and unique unit of Holiness. It was after all, The three of eternity and beyond.

God wanted to expand his influence and purpose by creating a Universe with an representative in it. It was to become an Temple to itself. It would have a paradise of a world with all the things to sustain it with a circle of life. It would have administrator for a continued success for eternity and beyond. It would be perfect.

This world would be different than the paradigm of God tho, it would have the tainted influence of Man in a human form with the flesh to struggle with. It was the paradigm of God that was different in that it was a realm of Holiness and Love. It is this realm that we must be mindful of in the story of mankind. Holiness is a strange reality when we are looking from the outside in. But God will soon show us a way into this reality.

Where I want to go now, from this foundation of the storyline is that the thing that we are confused on in the journey to get to this Holiness, is we are trying to achieve it thru human or fleshly actions. It doesn’t work, won’t work,never will,can’t be done. Did I say that there is no hope in fleshly ways?

God, in his Son, while walking on this earth was giving us a blueprint, tips, subtle hints, out of this world picture words, or even things that we would have to imagine in our minds to perceive his ways. But one thing should(but doesn’t) all these things are not of this world! They are all from the World of God. They are Holy. They are righteous. They are of Him.

God works thru His Heavenly Realm.

God lays it out there for us to ‘See’ in His Realm.

God thru all ‘time’ has used this method of transparency for ‘US’ to ‘See’ Him.

I am a firm believer that we must ‘see’ him starting with before time started. How can we do that you say? God has worked thru mysterious ways thru time.

If God is working thru mankind, he will use man to reach itself thru the outstretched hands of God.

This will be my initial point, God uses everything that He has touched or is going to touch to let us see Him. This is where I say that mankind or even just Christianity has failed in the obvious reality that God has laid things out for us to see and to understand God even better.

God has used history of man to be used in his quest for man to know Him, but also to live it, to be the example to the world. Man has written down the stories and visions of God thru his special people throughout time. It is for this reason we have not used everything to our advantage. I believe that we are on the cusp of really being able to ‘SEE’ God for who He really is, and especially who He is to US.

I am a Preachers Kid. I have been in this Paradigm for most of my life. I have been in the circle of multiple preachers thru the years of my fathers ministry, I have been in contact with alot of the preachers kids also to continue the story. It is when I was on the other side of ‘Ministry’ that it dawned on me that this ‘ministry’ didn’t have the whole story, it was telling a story that was not complete. If you know the background of Religion you know that it has had multiple divisions along the way for the sake of the ‘right one’ being pushed. But as you can tell, these are of the human interest way of telling things, not of God. They are all like this, no exceptions.

But where did it go wrong?

In my opinion, we didn’t look at the whole picture, the whole story!

It’s like we started our story of God, in the middle of God’s story.

alas, confusing!

God has given us some new and exciting things to see and read in the last 100 years with new and old things being found in the biblical world thru archaeology. By not using these things as apart of the blueprint of God’s road map to him, would make us go down the wrong path, as I fear it already has.

I am currently reading Josephus,Apocrypha, and the Pseudepigrapha, which I fear that our predecessors have not used in their material of the blueprint to God. I am amazed at the insight it could and will give us in our journey to ‘Know’ God. I pray that you will join me in ‘Knowing’ God by knowing His life in the History of mankind.

Happy Reading!

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Deconstruction

It’s starting over. erasing everything on the paper. tearing your model apart. Start from scratch in the kitchen. breaking your wood project to pieces. clearing your mind.

Re-Reading the Bible from start to finish.

This is actually what is going on in many people minds or philosophies,or even theologies. It seems to be the word in christendom. But I believe that it is almost always done outside of the walls of the church. You see, You might be chastised if you were tell the preacher or an elder that this is not right what we are doing in the church.

It is outside the walls of the church building, that things are being relooked at all levels of christianity. Their has been alot of different avenues of christianity that has been pushed, or thought of as the ‘way’ that the scriptures were pointing us to go. Just in the last 100 yrs their has been 2-3 models that have been instituted thru the name of God, that has never worked out. (this is only for the United States)

Let’s start with the oldest one that started in the 1940-50’s that the small evangelical preacher was supposed to ‘Preach Fire and Brimstone’ upon everyone’s head in those small towns to get them to heaven. This was all the rage. It eventually came to the city, and then was always used in the service to have everybody down at the alter to repent of their sins, and to make sure you would get to heaven, and not hell. People of persuasion were bullying people into Heaven.

Just can’t find this in the scriptures as being used as ‘way’ into Heaven anywhere. (besides being a wrong theology)

The second one is the let’s make a difference thru the church by melding our beliefs into the political arena, so that everyone must conform into it by law or legislation that we pass. This started in the 1980’s and has come crashing down upon us in the last few years. Which we won’t get in to. But it was this thinking that christianity must be inside the government to ‘make’ a difference in the US. This was the way to do it, so they thought.

This again, is nowhere in the scriptures the way that God’s people were to ‘sway’ the gentiles into submission.

Another big thing that was all the rage was the actually BIG CHURCH in the town that ‘everyone’ went to, to emphasized the awesomeness of God in one place by either from the pastor, or from the sheer ‘hugeness’ of the congregation. But this too has died a slow death, once everyone figured out that they felt all ‘alone’ in those 15,000 church’s. Their was no attention to the fellowship of people in the more intimate way of sharing each others lives in a daily basis way.

Again, This is nowhere to be found either in the old testament or new testament!. (Israel’s multitude in the time of the Exile when their people were flourishing, is not an example of this) Especially in the New Testament.

I have said this is many other blogs of mine that we haven’t really focused on the theme of the bible, (or what I call the Eternal Purpose)or the actually Forrest of it, instead of the tree, that we seem to be crazy about.

Why have we not just sat down in our chairs, and just DECONSTRUCT God’s Theology for us. Start at the beginning. After we have destroyed everything that we have used before in our theology. This is a must. No, It is a Command!!

Clear your mind of all previous ways, institutions, traditions, sacraments, or inheritance of beliefs and start from a clean sheet of paper!

Start in reading Genesis, slowly reading everything with the concept of that everything that is going on started with a plan a perfectness of God, it went wrong with the building materials God was using(us), but His plan was to get it back to His original plan. Keep this in mind all the way thru the bible, til the very end, tada, it does!

Start over, Today.

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Update on latest books read

I like to every once in awhile keep people up to date on my studies and books that I have read.

My latest books that I have read are in the same genre in a way, they include things that pertain to the theme of ‘Universalism’. Like “I say to the people that ask me what are you reading now”?, I tell them that I am quite diverse in my book reading or interest in the subjects of the bible. This topic is of a controversial subject that has been in the christian history since the beginning of the New Testament, it has not ever gone away. It seems that in the last 20+ years it has come into the spotlight in alot of different arena’s in the christian realm. This is why I took up the gauntlet to delve into the subject. Here are a few of the books that I come across to educate me.

The first one is by David Bentley Hart-“That All shall be Saved”.

This is probably one of the two books that challenges the concept of ‘Hell’, which is a part of ‘Universalism’.

The second one is by Richard Rohr –“The Universal Christ”.

Addresses the ‘Saving of All’

The third one is by Haley Goranson Jacob –“Conformed to the Image of His Son”.

Very deep material of why man is restored to the image of God.

The Fourth one is by Ilaria L. E. Ramelli –“A Larger Hope”

This book is the going thru the Apostolic fathers that were either hinting of the concept of ‘Universalism’ or was intentionally. This was thru the Middle ages.

The Fifth one is by Robin A Parry –“A Larger Hope”(second volume of first)

This book continues with the prior one thru the 20th Century of Apostolic fathers and others that were instituting the claim of ‘Universalism’.

I would recommend all these books for research and studying for increased knowledge of biblical theology. But I am especially impressed with both authors of the book “A Larger Hope”. They are all very deep and will need prior knowledge of alot of scriptures to use as references. But this is what it is all about in ‘seeing’ the scriptures as they are presented to us as a complete story of God and His Eternal Purpose.

Let me know if you get to read any of these Great books and your opinion of them or any questions on them.

Good Reading!

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Revisiting Garden of Eden & Revelation

I have touched on this subject probably on a few occasions with some different proclamations, but today I am using the two statements in a different way.

I have started another long and winding road towards the matters of studying the early church fathers, not knowing where it will lead me. But it is the way I like it. New and Different, outside the box kinda thing, I say! It is here, that I found out studying another subject, that all the answers that we are searching for in between these two statements of ‘Garden of Eden’ and ‘Revelation’ are in these two statements!

I have like I said pointed out in my blogs that it is in these two statements, ‘Beginning & ‘Eternal’ that we can find our storyline to follow in between the two statements. But it is the two statements that will drive our storyline to fruition.

So let’s re look at the beginning, the garden of Eden, What was it,and Why? God’s desires an image, an image in his likeness in his world(Temple), with fellowship together with them. It is in this fellowship that His desire is to commune with them. It is the unity of the Trinity of God that is the basis of Life. This Life is the sole instrument of what God is. Life is the Alpha and the Omega.(This statement should be written into our minds and our hearts to guide us to God’s desire for Man)

God’s beginning was not conditional on whether it worked on man or not, it would work! There’s no plan b. God’s fellowship was his goal with his creation, to create a land, a people, and a King/Priest to enjoy eternity, worshiping the creator by the creation.

God created a masterpiece in the universe that man can only see a very minute piece of it at this time, which it stills boggles my mind on our magnificent it is. I can’t even imagine what we will exclaim when we can see the whole thing,(I am assuming that the only way that we will be able to see the whole thing is when Heaven and Earth are re-united together soon.) It is this backdrop in the image of God’s desire to set up the most desirous thing possible for us by Him. There has not been anything spared in the luxury’s of God’s world for us. It was us and God,mingling,walking,talking,living together!

This is the life.

No, This is Life.

Now let’s fast forward in time and the story. God is describing the New Jerusalem(this context is pointing to that of ‘it’ is the temple that God was always wanting(Garden of Eden), Man inside his temple and all his Glory). New Jerusalem will be flowing with the river of life, stones of beauty to show God’s utmost of himself, It’s symbolism of the the twelve tribes of Israel, the Glory is all in all.

God’s reality of His Kingdom is now come to it’s fruition. It is the accumulation of all things together in God’s name that the ‘Eternal Purpose’ has come to God and Man.

Now it is just the journey in the middle of the story that will continue the story from A to B, this is the journey, to lead us into the Glory of the Lord in his ‘New Kingdom’.

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Does Kingdom theology answer the theology of the Jews?

There is a difference of opinion of the jewish world and of the christian world in the eschatology of both. It has a few reasons why the jewish world has denied the christian eschatology, one has been the notion of dieing in this world and proceed to heaven for all the good people, and the bad, well, you know,hell.

The Kingdom of God theology, that is being now preached in various forms of avenues to christians has a different scenario for all of us. It is the storyline of God creating a world, for his creation’s, to work along side of everything He created, with God walking with us. It was when mankind, saw that He could run it by himself, without the creator in any shape or form. It was a ‘make the world and just leave it to us’ kind of scenario for mankind.

But God had a twist to this storyline, He being the God that He was, was not leaving totally to the story, He was to be involved in various things to maybe show the bad, and good things of the ‘mankind experiment’ until God’s involvement in bringing His people back around to Him. Abraham was the beginning of Gods retaking his world from mankind.

God showing the world that his only son, was the model of God’s ‘New World’ of his Kingdom is born when Jesus conquered the ‘Death’ of Mankind, that was holding it back from achieving the ultimate goal of God’s perfect example of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

God’s Kingdom is alive! It is being lived out in yours and my life that is progressing to the ultimate reality that is described in Revelation 20-21 of the New Testament.

Heaven(God’s government) is now with the world of his people, He is now all in all!

This is a very, very short storyline of what I could actually describe to you but if you desire more explained or just a question of something, I will return a answer, I hope.

Something to think about, it does connect some puzzle pieces tho!

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Heaven

What is it?

Where is it?

Why is it?

Who made it?

When is it for?

Answer these questions, but do not rely on the things that a pastor,laymen, or parents have told you they were, but rely on yourself to search the scriptures for the answers. Do not just look at a verse as an answer, but let the answer be defined in the context that it is being used in, if it leads to a previous use in another context from someone else compare the two examples. Let the context and the allegory uses that they show you on the definition and use of the word  “Heaven”.

Now, compare the understanding of the word “Heaven”  that you already thought you knew, and the new definition of the word that you will see in its use now.

Hearing the use of a ‘definition’ or a concept in the bible over and over from someone, is not always to say that they are right in their knowledge in their use of the  concept. It is thru our studying the scriptures, with the foundation of the time period, the society at the time, the perceived reality of God,(gods) that should all come together to understand the concept of anything that we read in the bible.

It has been an injustice for us as christians to use the scriptures, and used it as a continuing concept in our time and place.

It was being used for the people of the time, separate people with different ideals, but with the touching of us thru history and God’s Eternal Purpose that it is meant for us now!

If we could only see it!

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